On terror in the press: “The virus is in the air”, a title that will do a lot of damage

On today’s online Republic there is an article entitled “The virus also circulates in the air / WHO is preparing to revise the guidelines” illustrated with a photo of a mask. It is also in the paper edition, on p. 5, with an even more tranchant title: “The virus is in the air / The USA: use them all / And the WHO is preparing to review the rules.”

Since the article is paid for on the web, the title is the only thing that most visitors will read. And he will think that to get infected, just leave the house without a mask.

We, on the other hand, are used to reading the articles in full, and if it serves to verify their sources.

We point out that similar titles have also appeared on other newspapers. We chose Repubblica because it is the most mainstream, the most visited online, has a patina of “respectability” and since the beginning of the emergency coronavirus has zealously spread certain narratives – the ones that we try to dismantle on Giap – in certain sectors of the ‘public opinion.

The articles cited as “supporting patches” say more

From the rather tangled article, not much is understood, but two scientific articles are cited vaguely, one that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine on March 17 that we had already dealt with in a discussion here on Giap , and the other appeared on Jama on March 26 .

Let’s start from the latter: it is not a study done directly on the Sars-Cov2 virus, but a recapitulation of discoveries on the transmission of pathogens by droplets and by aerosol. Explain that a sneeze does not only consist of droplets but also – we translate from the uninitiated – of “a turbulent and multiphase gas cloud”. Thanks to the coexistence of droplets and aerosols, a pathogen transmitted by a sneeze can even reach 7-8 meters away. The cloud then loses its thrust and disperses but leaves “residues or nuclei of droplets that can remain in the air for hours, following the patterns of currents imposed by ventilation or air systems. conditioning “.

We are therefore mainly talking about closed environments.

Where the text reaches the point, in the paragraph entitled “Implications for Prevention and Precaution”, it does not speak of walking in the open air as the title of Republic would induce anyone to think, but of the greater safety distance to be kept and the precautions that should be observed healthcare workers in contact with Covid-19 patients, and it is all proposed with caution and hypothetical formulations (our bold):

“Although no studies have directly evaluated the biophysics of droplets and gas cloud formation for patients infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus , several properties of the exhaled gas cloud and respiratory transmission may apply to this pathogen. If so, this possibility may influencecurrent recommendations intended to minimize the risk for disease transmission. In the latest World Health Organization recommendations for COVID-19, health care personnel and other staff are advised to maintain a 3-foot (1-m) distance away from a person showing symptoms of disease, such as coughing and sneezing. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends a 6-foot (2-m) separation. However, these distances are based on estimates of range that have not considered the possible presence of a high-momentum cloud carrying the droplets long distances. Given the turbulent puff cloud dynamic model, recommendations for separations of 3 to 6 feet (1-2 m) may underestimatethe distance, timescale, and persistence over which the cloud and its pathogenic payload travel, thus generating an underappreciated potential exposure range for a health care worker. For these and other reasons, wearing of appropriate personal protection equipment is vitally important for health care workers caring for patients who may be infected , even if they are farther than 6 feet away from a patient. “

Put simply: doctors and nurses who treat Covid-19 patients would be better off wearing a mask even when they are more than two meters away. We are talking about particular situations – and professions – of closed environments where people are infected.

And, let’s repeat, they are not studies conducted directly on the coronavirus.

Let’s get to the older article. We had already criticized harshly those who tried to use it as a support for the “ban on walking”.

Here too we talk about the plausibility of transmission via aerosol, but also in this case the implications – and implicit recommendations – concern closed environments and large concentrations of people. The focus of the study is the permanence of the virus on surfaces of different materials, with explicit reference to hospital contagion and mass gatherings: “nosocomial spread and super-spreading events” .

Starting from these two articles per holder anxiously “The virus is in the air” is a nice leap of a tiger, no doubt about it.

Furthermore, while the title says “WHO is preparing to revise the rules”, the text only mentions David Heymann, head of the WHO SARS-Cov2 panel who says: “We are studying the new scientific lines and we are ready to change the guidelines if necessary ».

The real world is not a laboratory

As the user pm2001 reported in a comment on this blog, the position of the WHO updated to March 29 is here :

“Basically, the assessment is: the latest experiments that revealed possible transmission in the air have used high-power nebulizers, which do not reflect normal human cough conditions. Measurements performed on covid patients showed no transmission. Furthermore ” in an analysis of 75,465 COVID-19 cases in China, airborne transmission was not reported “. So masks are only recommended for healthcare professionals. “

Bisogna sempre ricordare, infatti, come ha ribadito il Robert Koch Institut in Germania, che un conto sono le evidenze ottenute in laboratorio sulla permanenza del virus, e un altro sono le condizioni reali. In laboratorio difficilmente puoi riprodurre uno starnuto. E la sopravvivenza del virus dipende da fattori molteplici, come la temperatura, l’umidità dell’aria, il tipo di superficie, la sua struttura, perfino il design.

Virologist Hendrik Streeck is studying the spread of Sars-Cov2 in the Heinsberg district , one of the German outbreaks of the virus, on a case by case basis . He went to the homes of infected people, tracked their movements, and what is proving to be in contrast with several laboratory experiments. On the surfaces of a real house, the virus seems to survive for a much shorter time and the real probability of being infected by touching an “infected” handle is close to zero. None of the cases studied became infected or infected other people in a supermarket, although everyone attended it. The study is ongoing, but it already promises rather unpublished results on how it really gets infected.

The babau that is (nourishes) “out there”

The consequences of a junk title like the one under consideration can be serious, in a context of fear, of media bombardment against improbable scapegoats (complete with probably unconstitutional supermults ), while people are barred in the house and there is talk of « hour of air »for children.

From the outset, irrational bans and criminalizations were based on an absurd idea, completely unfounded from a virological and epidemiological point of view but constantly fueled by media and politicians-sheriffs, planted in millions of brains and not denied with sufficient clarity or visibility by doctors and scientists (indeed, encouraged by some doctors and scientists who have become media widows): the idea that the virus is “out there”, omnipresent and persistent, able to reach you anywhere and at any distance. And now that the weekend is approaching, it is better to spread some terror, to prevent someone from going for a walk. Not even in the woods you can go: there are those who ask to patrol them to track down the greasers, those who send drones …

The climate of terror for the “babau out there” does not arise from scientific evidence, albeit misrepresented. That is sought after, as a support piece. It is not the headlines – wrong – on the spread of the virus in the open air that have triggered the criminalization of those who walk one kilometer from home. On the contrary: those titles are made – to the detriment of even the content of the articles themselves – to justify the hard line against those who would like to walk in a wood.

In the same way, reasoning without any logic is made – “if everyone walked, the gatherings could not be avoided” – and characters like “the one who sneezes in your face” are born, in some ways similar to the “prostitute [not by chance” the HIV-positive stroller »] who pierces condoms to infect customers and writes” Welcome to AIDS “on the mirror».

Has anyone ever really gone for a walk and sneezed in the face of others? Or vice versa: did he really walk in the middle of a meadow and meet another hiker who coughs on him? Starnman – the bad guy who sneezes in your face – has the same substance as urban legends, with nightmares with your eyes open.

The narrative framework of the “babau out there” precedes the spread of the coronavirus and, as we have pointed out several times, had already manifested itself in the ideology of decorum . It was already in widespread agoraphobia, the hatred for public spaces that are really used by people. It was already in the slogans “masters in our house”. And today it is strengthened with the discovery – incredible! – that sociality is contagion, that being together we can pass on viruses, bacteria, germs, crap. That it is not enough to dislodge the guy who sleeps on a bench, to have a finally clean and aseptic square.

An awareness that from now on will torment us forever.

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115 comments on ” On terror in the press:” The virus is in the air “, a title that will do a lot of damage “

  1. mojo04/03/2020 at 11:16 amYes I could add that the Guardian in the UK operates exactly like the Republic here although not so brazenly. There is no mainstream newspaper now that has not been co-opted to disseminate propaganda. Although right-wing but libertarian only Peter Hitchens in the Daily Mail dares to put in … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Frank Sullivan04/03/2020 at 2:35 pmHitchens writes: “I suspect that this dark season could get even worse before seeing the clear and calm light of reason again. The greater the mistake we have made, the less willing we are to admit or correct it. This is why I fear very much worse developments in the coming days. “Maybe we will emulate France … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • RoccoSan04/04/2020 at 7:04 amI don’t think I saw this Guardian article reading the comments on the post. It is by David Heymann, epidemiologist and professor of “Epidemiology of infectious diseases” at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. He was head of the WHO during SARS in 2003. I saw his … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  2. Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 11:17 amThanks. I’m afraid that here in Italy only you from Giap and very few others are lucid and intellectually honest. All the rest is madness. At best.Log in to reply
  3. Michela04/03/2020 at 11:33 amCome to think of it, the title itself negates the message they would like to get across. If the virus is in the air, then there is no need for forced quarantine of the whole country, sooner or later we have to breathe, open the windows, unless the gills grow and we all move to the sea. … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • tuco04/03/2020 at 11:42 amThe factories will reopen after Easter, everything else will be extended until May 16.https://video.repubblica.it/dossier/coronavirus-wuhan-2020/coronavirus-borrelli-plausibile-inizio-fase-2-entro-il-16-maggio-dipende-dai-dati/357364/357924?ref= RHPPTP-BH-I0-C12-P4-S1.8-T1However, if the virus is everywhere and there is no salvation, the executive power should distribute cyanide pills to everyone.Log in to reply
      • Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 11:50 amWell no. If you can work you can also go out, 2000000 penalties can also be imposed on me. Enough, there is a limit and it has been greatly exceeded.Log in to reply
        • tuco04/03/2020 at 12:01 pmLook, the police stopped me yesterday on my way home from work. I teach at university. The lessons are suspended, and the policemen did not believe that I had gone to my office because I have my books there and from the university terminals I can access the magazines in electronic format (from home I do not … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
          • Entomowoman04/03/2020 at 5:07 pmPoint 85 of the list of essential activities attached to the latest dpcm: “Education”. Schools and universities are not closed, face-to-face teaching is only suspended, but teachers can go to the office for other forms of teaching. Perhaps it should be clarified to the controllers.Log in to reply
      • camilla04/03/2020 at 3:31 pmWill all the shops, bars / restaurants etc, the artisan shops and, in short, all the activities normally open to the public (I am not talking about cinema, discotheques, etc.) closed until May 16? I don’t know, it seems to me (and I hope) that it is not very sustainable as a plan.Log in to reply
        • tuco04/03/2020 at 3:41 pmno no, they will keep people at home until 16 May.Log in to reply
        • musikarol04/03/2020 at 3:59 pmBe careful because the rope is already close to breaking. Another month and a half like this? Unimaginable. But perhaps you really want to provoke a series of extraordinary reactions (in a literal sense) from those who can no longer, so even more dictatorial measures would be taken by those who can not wait … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
          • Wu Ming 104/03/2020 at 4:10 pmThere is no Plan: there are varied powers that, sometimes even in latent or explicit conflict between them, have jumped at the ball of this emergency to try to take advantage of it: from the governor or mayor who thinks he will take advantage of it image and then electoral to the next administrative to … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
            • tuco04/03/2020 at 4:18 pmThe key point in my opinion is that lockdown is the optimal type of social organization for surveillance and platform capitalism. It allows highly efficient governance of work, public order and consumption. What MIT psychotics don’t deal with, however, is that very trivially … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
              • camilla04/03/2020 at 4:47 pmI do not expect them to say “take a nice walk where you want”, but I believe that the opening of some commercial activities will necessarily go hand in hand with a greater ability to move (or I will have to self-certify that I need a couple new underwear?). And I think … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
            • Kola04/03/2020 at 6:18 pmI am not sure that it is a big problem for our political class to change the narrative, given that we are constantly witnessing changes in direction dictated by the “air that pulls” and the obsession with popularity and polls, but this situation may be different . As for the perception of the authoritarian tendency … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
              • Wu Ming 104/03/2020 at 6:40 pmIt is that that of the “emergency” – from time to time the emergency-terrorism, the emergency-public finances and all the emergency frames that we have known – is never just any narrative. It is a long-range Great Storytelling, which once imposed in the imagination has a very strong inertial thrust, and cannot be stopped at will. … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
                • tienesqueesperar04/03/2020 at 7:24 pmThe theme of perception and then – to put it with Foucault – of the subjectivation of reality by the community – in this rotten rattatuia which is mainstream information in our country – seems central to me. How to get out of the dominant narrative, how to emerge from the broth and start again … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
                  • Kola04/03/2020 at 8:40 pmIn fact, it is very difficult to predict if and when the situation will become explosive. It is likely that at least in the short term the only detonator is the lack of income for a substantial portion of the population. But I seem to have noticed, and I’m not the only one, that at least in my area in the last few days are seen … [Continue reading]
                  • Wu Ming 104/04/2020 at 12:15 amAlso in my neighborhood in Bologna I see more and more people around every day, and in certain alleys also very vintage small groups in front of grocery stores. Ward dwellers of different ages, men and women. It means that there are no informers. It must be said that it is a peculiar neighborhood: … [Continue reading]
            • mojo04/04/2020 at 12:41 amIs your certainty that there is no Plan based on ..?The capitalism that now makes the deadly convulsions also orchestrates twists in order to postpone the inevitable end.In jargon it is called “kicking the can down the road”.Log in to reply
      • lourcoa04/03/2020 at 8:33 pmThe factories are already open …. not only those necessary (with Ateco code contained in Annex 1) but also those that with a simple self-certification to the prefect have declared to enter the production chains by right. Thanks to a government in the hands of Confindustria.Log in to reply
    • ryb_d04/03/2020 at 6:51 pmI think they confused the covid with John Carpenter’s The FogLog in to reply
  4. Marella04/03/2020 at 11:57 amThanks so much for your articles. In this situation of collective madness I am like a light in pitch darkness.Log in to reply
  5. alessandro costetti04/03/2020 at 12:04 pmI wrote an email to the editorial staff of Repubblica. I checked now and they moved it from the header. Hopefully it will be eliminated.Log in to reply
    • Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 12:10 pmMy sister, who subscribed to it because of her profession, also wrote to the newspaper to express disdain for the misleading and mystifying title. And I guess you won’t be the only one to have expressed dissent.Log in to reply
    • musikarol04/03/2020 at 4:05 pmEven if they did, it’s late now. On the other hand, it would not be the first time that they make an uncomfortable news disappear, or at least modify a too unbalanced and ambiguous title. Two days ago they had dedicated a lot of space to a ridiculous and grotesque initiative of the old photographer / communicator, evidently to try to do it again … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • diorama04/03/2020 at 6:06 pmI also made the letter to the assistance. The “twelve years” of prison that risked walking were a hoax but they appeared, just like this time, in the title of an article by Rep without making it clear which article of the penal code they referred to. It would take something stronger than … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  6. frapede04/03/2020 at 12:04 pmIt was March 3, before all the decrees, but already after a week of closings in different regions. This article: https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2020/03/03/news/coronavirus_in_cina_calano_i_nuovi_contagi-250077328/ The title speaks of mortality at 3.4%, when inside the piece the words of the general manager of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, are: “Globally, about the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  7. alessandro costetti04/03/2020 at 12:06 pmHowever, it was enough to read the Nature article. “The World Health Organization says the evidence is not compelling”https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00974-w?fbclid=IwAR2iIJG0jq9mqXpiel8dAmaQoWpE8v-L07NWiZHMhJSz4owibCWQ27Zk1QYLog in to reply
    • phil04/03/2020 at 5:43 pm“But scientists warn that gathering sufficient data could take years and cost lives.” Let’s quote them in full the titles! Even admitting that the virus is “airborne”, and since there is still no consensus on the matter, the most prudent thing would be to admit it, the problem is not in the open air, but in closed environments, little … [Continue to read]Log in to reply
  8. Nexus04/03/2020 at 12:14 pm«Give us the poison and blackmail us with the antidote» (Kaos One) The mandatory mask is a frame that goes hand in hand with the terror of the “extension of measures until May 16”, both on the Rep.it homepage. After surfing on the wave of the peak (“for the third day the growth of the infections slows down”, he headlined (falsely) … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • gubac04/03/2020 at 2:02 pmI was also thinking about that Kaos song these days, which by the way is called a pandemic (even if it talks about another virus). As @Michela pointed out above, if the virus were in the air and everywhere then so much would be worth going out; it is obvious that the logical passage they will make will be the opposite: it is everywhere so let us lock ourselves in … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Iteration04/04/2020 at 3:57 amJust today Enrico Letta at Propaganda Live said that “social life will change”, and he began to unravel activities in bars, restaurants, cinemas, concerts: no mention of activities without trade in the background, and none of the intelligentsia present (if so we want to call the paucity of mainstream centrists taken as a reference by … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  9. Elettrap04/03/2020 at 12:29 pmI wanted to say two things: 1. That republic and similar newspapers continue to leave covid-related articles for a fee when not even scientific papers known to be related to cash do say much about the interest they have in making information. Besides that, do not check what is published in a moment … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  10. paoz04/03/2020 at 12:32 pmI have been running (almost) regularly for at least thirty years, I often use the bicycle to go to work and occasionally also to “climb” a few hills, and often practice trekking on the Apennine trails of WuMing2. In addition, the terrorist, spectacular and approximate approach of many media (and even some institutional subjects) with respect to … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Wu Ming 204/03/2020 at 12:45 pmSorry Paoz, you yourself say that “the terrorist, spectacular and approximate approach of many media (and even some institutional subjects) compared to COVID19 is under the eyes of anyone who wants to keep them open.”, But then you conclude that it would be more fair and constructive to speak of a general fight against the virus … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 1:02 pmBut it is the logic that is reversed! Controlling the movements is useless to stem the infection (if not intended in the sense that those who are ill should obviously not go to a dinner with friends). This craving for control that ranges from counting how many meters you have … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • musikarol04/03/2020 at 4:11 pmTerm very popular at the time of the twenty years, now cleared through customs, with the joy of the many nostalgics that proliferate in this country. Where, let’s never forget, fascism was invented, just under a hundred years ago. Something will mean, right?Log in to reply
        • Kola04/03/2020 at 6:53 pmSuper OT, however, that fascism was “invented” in Italy is questionable.Log in to reply
          • musikarol04/03/2020 at 8:56 pmI do not think so. 1922, who and where before that date?Log in to reply
            • Wu Ming 104/03/2020 at 9:10 pmIn 1922 fascism had already existed officially for three years. Some historians have backdated the origins of fascism by finding prodromes in different countries already at the beginning of the twentieth century, however, sorry, we are OT. Let’s talk about it another time.Log in to reply
              • musikarol04/03/2020 at 9:27 pmAnd give it with this OT, it reminds me of the old “motions of order”. However (and here for me it’s really closed, I promise) the first time a party that called itself ‘fascist’ was formed was in Italy, in the early 1920s, and that party took power with a coup … [Keep reading]Log in to reply
                • mojo04/03/2020 at 9:55 pmGood night. Even if it’s OT.Log in to reply
                • Wu Ming 104/03/2020 at 11:46 pmThey remind you of motions of order because they are motions of order, we have always called them here. We have a long experience of dense and kilometric discussions, it is difficult to follow them and we must help the reader. Just a trifle is enough to start long sub-threads that move away from the focus, and also divert attention visually, … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  11. mojo04/03/2020 at 12:38 pmThere is something that escapes me. When I go out I see that almost everyone has a mask but there is no obligation and WHO says that they are NOT needed if you are not infected. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks Could someone please clarify for me the official vis a vis in line this country that is always for me … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Entomowoman04/03/2020 at 2:25 pmAs for the masks, I think it is advisable to use surgical ones (which protect others, not the wearer) in the presence of other people in closed environments. It is true that they are of no use if you are healthy, but almost nobody can be certain that you are not a patient … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Ilina04/03/2020 at 3:18 pmI think the ministry of health is an official source (and among other things reports the indications of the WHO) http://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioFaqNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=italiano&id=228#6 Then I too would agree to use it all in closed and crowded places to protect each other. That said, there are mayors who have issued ordinances forcing the population to wear a mask (or failing that, … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • Wu Ming 204/03/2020 at 3:21 pmIt is also called “theater”. That is: see citizen of my municipality, I mayor do even more than the national government and the Region to save your life. My precautionary principle goes further. So I too go further. I’m better. I am active. Luckily you elected me.Log in to reply
      • taxusbaccata04/03/2020 at 8:26 pmYou are definitely right. Just type in any search engine ‘union union orders’ and they are found galore. I quote from the first (and do not take much more than the mayor of Capoterra which is abundant and bad company): “… compulsory wearing, inside shops, by all … [Read more]Log in to reply
    • lourcoa04/03/2020 at 8:44 pmThey are not needed if you are not infected as you rightly indicated. I am 5km from Codogno and I do not wear a mask. I regularly work in a foundry where I have to wear it for business procedures … and instead I do not wear it and I will explain why … I want to wear the same mask for 3 days (from company procedure) and I … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  12. a random name04/03/2020 at 1:13 pmI just want to add that the article deliberately makes the fact, obviously known and strange, that the various respirators used in intensive and subintensive therapies create a dangerous aerosol, as a very recent discovery, and in fact in these departments it has always been necessary to harness with masks, glasses protective etc. Ever since this started … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • plumb04/03/2020 at 1:33 pmDo you think that in some intensive care units they have “finished” the full suits. Here. In Bologna. And then they talk about containing the spread of the infection …Log in to reply
  13. K04/03/2020 at 1:35 pmI fully agree. Operation Fear acts on many fronts. The day before yesterday at 8 & 1/2 Gualtiero Ricciardi, former president of the National Institute of Health, actor of cinema and TV (stage name Walter Ricciardi) and Commendatore della Repubblica, pressed by journalists, said, after the initial confused statements , which in phase 2 (which will … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  14. Nite Owl04/03/2020 at 1:57 pmThis title was my morning good morning. The first thought was not unlike the cyanide pill mentioned by Tuco. The morning continues with Nobel Prize winner Olga Tokarczuk who, in a piece reported by Corriere, says “For a long time now the world was too much. Too much, too fast, … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 2:23 pmDo you know what the curious thing is? For twenty years I have lived with a pathophobia that limits and conditions me and yet, paradoxically, in this situation I am more lucid than my “normal” friends and acquaintances who are duped by the titles of these lousy journalists. On what these gentlemen say, to … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • musikarol04/03/2020 at 4:18 pmI’d leave the statements of Tokarczuk, a writer, alone: ​​she can say whatever she wants, it’s an opinion, even a questionable one, but not entirely. Otherwise it ends up. emulate the director of micromega, with his sprawling and violent attack on Agamben, which in turn had expressed an opinion. It is true that … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • glo04/03/2020 at 4:22 pmThose sentences taken by the courier (I can’t read the article because the courier for non-subscribers is practically armored) makes me think of this beautiful article on donkeys https://gliasinirivista.org/il-prima-e-il-dopo- quarantine-notes / (I can’t remember if the article was already filmed on the blog!) “the depressing impression is that the vast majority did not ask for anything else: an excellent reason, … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • glo04/03/2020 at 4:36 pmAs said, I managed to read the courier’s article, in reality it is a more interesting opinion than it seemed. I paste the conclusion. “We stay at home, read books and watch series on television, but in reality we are preparing for the great battle for a new reality that we are not … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
        • musikarol04/03/2020 at 4:54 pmI am not at all surprised: Mrs. Tokarczuk, as far as I know (I have never read anything of her but they told me about it) is anything but a mainstream or regime writer. But here are examples of the breakdowns of this infodemy that is poisoning our lives, just a title … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
        • Nite Owl04/03/2020 at 6:53 pmDear Glo, I expressed myself in a perhaps superficial way, because I wrote totally from my stomach. The piece is more composite than the piece I mentioned (which then disagrees with some conclusions, perhaps because of the paternalistic tone that I have seen, is another matter), but that single song makes me … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  15. Anna Luisa S.04/03/2020 at 2:11 pm“Starnman – the bad guy who sneezes in your face -“This step made me laugh a lot 😉
    And anyway thanks for this anti-panic post.Log in to reply
  16. Entomowoman04/03/2020 at 2:59 pmObviously I agree with the content of the article; I obviously say why anyone with a modicum of scientific culture and / or reasoning ability cannot come to different conclusions. I am really tired and irritated to find that the national strategy is still limited to the obsessive “stay at home” and the demonization of outdoor activities, without … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  17. Sanba04/03/2020 at 3:10 pmI’m amazed (but maybe I’m just a naive) by how Leonardo (scientific?) Treated the “news” reporting it as a republic, the grotesque is that they concluded today’s edition by talking about the hoaxes that run on the network and how defend yourself … you should report them otherwise!Log in to reply
  18. Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 3:23 pmhttps://www.ilmessaggero.it/mondo/coronavirus_mascherine_contagio_aria_oms_news_ultime_notizie_oggi-5150272.html Another deceptive title. Then reading the content (at least accessible) it is realized that things are not exactly as announced. But how many will read it? And in any case, without checking the sources by an attentive reader, what message will remain impressed? As I have already written, for … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  19. Wu Ming 204/03/2020 at 3:33 pmWhile this post circulates in a rather swirling way, and infects several brains, the Repubblica site integrates the offending article with a video declaration by Brusaferro, president of the ISS, where it is said that there is no evidence that the virus is transmitted in any other way that through the droplets of saliva and the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Wu Ming 204/03/2020 at 3:48 pmOn the Corriere’s website, however, the title of Repubblica takes the form of a question: “Does the coronavirus travel in the air?”. But the bolt is already more misleading: «A MIT research claims that the lightest droplets can spread up to 8 meters away. WHO is preparing to review the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • tuco04/03/2020 at 4:02 pmThe fact is that the virus must * ontologically * be in the air, everywhere and always. Indeed, ALWAYS AND OVVNQVE. Otherwise skip the stage.Log in to reply
      • Mandragola0104/03/2020 at 4:05 pmI heard my mother this morning, a person of good culture and very pragmatic. To say, one who, even though I had a fever at 39, made me move to another room to air the rooms. I noticed his tone of voice, generally very lively, rather flat. You and my father … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  20. Shabine04/03/2020 at 3:38 pmThe narration of these days varies from the dystopian to the Bradbury, perhaps with a local aftertaste of Benni or Avoledo, to the moralistic rhymes of Hoffmann. Generally we tend to sympathize with the mainstream messages by emphasizing the well-known Italic indiscipline and playing on bipolar pathophobia that leads us to wash our … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  21. Cor du Roy04/03/2020 at 4:38 pmAll right, the level of our media is pitiful. For decades and perhaps even before they have not given any news, they have bloody offal and winking portraits, in general attacking the donkey where the owner wants. There is no reason to expect anything better. I found interesting articles on magazines from other countries and probably … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  22. taxusbaccata04/03/2020 at 4:44 pmHello, speaking of mask yes / mask no outdoors yesterday Vittorio Agnoletto, who is a doctor, during the evening radio newspaper of Popular Radio recommended its use.
    From minute 3.10 (the masks, specifically, from minute 4.30).Log in to reply
  23. tienesqueesperar04/03/2020 at 5:45 pmIn the meantime – ignored by practically all the media (at least to my knowledge) – the ISS publishes, twice a week on its website, study and in-depth data on the evolution of the epidemic to which it has obviously dedicated entire section (https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/). These data are divided into two areas: from one … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  24. Monsieur en rouge04/03/2020 at 5:58 pmSpeaking of alarming and misleading titles, or which even declare false, I would like to point out that a few days ago the Manifesto published an interesting interview with David Quammen, the author of Spillover, on the ecological origin of zoonoses in general and on the management aware of the emergency in the event of an epidemic. The title chosen is a … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  25. Gabriele04/03/2020 at 6:30 pmI report this article that I read just yesterday. https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/all-we-will-wear-the-mask-interview-a-fabrizio-pregliasco_en_5e861b3ec5b6a9491832edde?ncid=tweetlnkithpmg00000001 Now, I don’t know Pregliasco or its positions. But reading the article I nailed my eye on a revealing quote. In my opinion, a real slip from an ideologue of the viral decoration: “The masks give a sense of security, if we all wear the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  26. denying04/03/2020 at 7:12 pmToday I was worried about this: two people, of different and distant age and socio-cultural level, told me the same thing: on my solicitations to make explicit the annoyance of staying at home, they told me: “I can’t take it anymore, but I feel guilty saying it out of respect for … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  27. unlogged04/03/2020 at 7:33 pmI am really embarrassed today, after what has happened so far, in asking these simple questions that could reveal my cognitive deficit (in case you have patience and explain to me). But isn’t “the virus in the air” good news? To my knowledge, I rely on the interview given by … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Wu Ming 104/03/2020 at 8:03 pmI would start from an assumption: false news cannot be good, even if read “against the hair”. You can read “bad news” bad news – bad but factually true – showing that its negativity can have positive implications etc. But with factually false news it doesn’t work. You can’t brush in the way … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • tuco04/03/2020 at 8:13 pmThe large church that goes from Repubblica to Fedriga is held together on the dogma that the air is infected, there in the great outside, even on top of the Gennargentu. There are people who keep their shutters down, people who let themselves die of starvation so as not to leave the house, people who are literally losing … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
        • mojo04/03/2020 at 9:30 pmVis a vis shutters down I wonder why you never hear MUSIC coming out of the windows in this lockdown period? I’m cheerfully locked up tonight listening to Kim Gordon who replaces Iggy Pop for his BBC 6 broadcast and his musical choices with the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  28. Monsieur en rouge04/03/2020 at 9:28 pmI would like to add another reflection, starting from the last paragraph in which it is written – incredible! – sociality is contagion. A few days ago a friend of mine was traveling and updating me on the situation she jokingly said: “there is nobody next to me: more or less the safety distance”. Here, according to … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • plumb04/03/2020 at 9:49 pmI, however, in the center I noticed the opposite and in fact I started making a series of videos that testify to the existence of life through music from the windows. Like cries of prisoners who want to escape. Loud music, to make itself heard or to break the embarrassing noise of this silence. … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  29. Yagharek04/04/2020 at 1:14 amCarl Sagan, an American astronomer, already said in the 1980s that “… we live in a society deeply dependent on science and technology in which nobody knows anything about these issues. It is a safe formula for disaster. ” If in this delicate historical moment journalists do not … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
    • Nite Owl04/04/2020 at 7:36 amAlso this morning Repubblica got up well. First two articles on the home (obviously paid):1 “Virus in the air and mask: the contagion rebus divides the experts” (with Fauci hypothesizing that the virus is transmitted by speaking)
      2 The government brakes on the restart in MayAnother good day, go.Log in to reply
      • tuco04/04/2020 at 8:04 amIt seems increasingly clear to me that there will be no phase 2. Little by little, all the factories will reopen, and to “compensate” for this “concession”, the executive power will further exacerbate the indefinite quarantine and repression. The most suitable human type will be selected a little at a time … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • Wu Ming 104/04/2020 at 8:34 amThey must necessarily present it as a “puzzle” that “divides the experts”. They can not titular: sorry, yesterday we wrote a shit, taking for granted something for which there is no evidence and sowing terror. After all, climate change also “divides the experts”, given that there is a small group of denier scientists. Also … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
      • Mandragola0104/04/2020 at 8:41 amGiven that the weather includes high pressure and a typically spring climate … could Repubblica not be exempt from spreading a little bit of sadness on our easy enthusiasms? I do not know what the Government is holding back on the restart in May. Obviously the subliminal message is: “forget to see the sea”. … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
        • tuco04/04/2020 at 8:48 amThis means: yesterday there was dismay because Borelli had said probably before 16 May he could not leave the house. People were desperate, they thought that on April 13 at least a breath of air could have caught her. Then Repubblica intervened to admonish us that even on May 16 … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
          • Wu Ming 104/04/2020 at 9:04 amAll this, let us remember, to divert the responsibility for disasters caused by the ruling class on the individual “unruly” citizen, who first “organized” and cut health, then ignored the epidemic for two months, finally reacting sprawled to the discovery of the first outbreaks, imposing inconsistent and “fits and starts” measures, gradually implementing them … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
            • Mandragola0104/04/2020 at 9:12 amBut now the strategy is of blinding evidence! Only a fool can still believe the fairy tale brought up by Repubblica & co. The prohibitions to which we are subjected are a colossal nonsense, regardless of how the virus spreads, the mask / mask no dilemma, the capacity of the hospitals, the … [Continue reading]Log in to reply
  30. Giacomazzo198404/04/2020 at 3:34 am“The stability of Sars-CoV-2 in different environmental conditions”. The other day The Lancet published an interesting study that shows the persistence of the virus over time on different surfaces (banknotes, plastic, wood, fabrics, paper etc.) and assesses the effect of temperature and the various disinfectants. They conclude by stating that “In general, SARS-CoV-2 can be highly stable in a … [Continue reading]